Comments on: U on chat? lol http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2009/05/04/u-on-chat-lol/ Imagination is more important than knowledge Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:46:04 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: db http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2009/05/04/u-on-chat-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-61649 db Mon, 11 May 2009 06:08:38 +0000 http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/?p=138#comment-61649 David Chambers: I didn't really think there were any situations where social bonding is undesirable. Also, while I'm all for "considered responses," sadly chat is not their home. Enchante: Your conclusion seems self-contradictory? The entire problem with chat <em>is</em> what gets lost. Wyatt: Always a pleasure. Sorry to hear it didn't work out <a href="http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2006/02/11/gmail-begins-the-feature-bloat-process/" title="Cupid was a social networker" rel="nofollow">with the bucket</a>. David Chambers: I didn’t really think there were any situations where social bonding is undesirable. Also, while I’m all for “considered responses,” sadly chat is not their home.

Enchante: Your conclusion seems self-contradictory? The entire problem with chat is what gets lost.

Wyatt: Always a pleasure. Sorry to hear it didn’t work out with the bucket.

]]> By: Wyatt Gwyon http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2009/05/04/u-on-chat-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-61451 Wyatt Gwyon Wed, 06 May 2009 05:40:54 +0000 http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/?p=138#comment-61451 Then there are those of us with hearts of black coal. I do not like people. Sometimes Internet People are better. Of course, I am now a stunted, perverse, shuffling creature, with bad posture, weakened limbs, and rivers of drool. But I am happy with the permanent twilight of curtained mid-days and the conversations which are not really human-talk; more like acting as the conciousness of some vast alien brain... lol. Then there are those of us with hearts of black coal. I do not like people. Sometimes Internet People are better. Of course, I am now a stunted, perverse, shuffling creature, with bad posture, weakened limbs, and rivers of drool. But I am happy with the permanent twilight of curtained mid-days and the conversations which are not really human-talk; more like acting as the conciousness of some vast alien brain…

lol.

]]> By: Enchante http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2009/05/04/u-on-chat-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-61449 Enchante Wed, 06 May 2009 05:08:02 +0000 http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/?p=138#comment-61449 Isn't that was the word Idiom is for? But can lol be called an idiom it has to first be recognised as a word. If it isn't a word, why are we using it? What I don't like about internet chat is that it promotes: 1) bad spelling 2) bad grammar However these things aren't solely on the shoulders of IM. The bigger picture (if your in the know) is texting...o im sry...I ment txtin Texting among children (and adults) is perhaps now the primary way of talking to each other. Parents will limit their children to computer/internet use. But with $10 (a month) text they go hard. But I am digressing. Long story short. I don't mind chatting online. The thing I don't like is things getting lost in translation (this includes emotions!). Isn’t that was the word Idiom is for? But can lol be called an idiom it has to first be recognised as a word. If it isn’t a word, why are we using it?

What I don’t like about internet chat is that it promotes:
1) bad spelling
2) bad grammar

However these things aren’t solely on the shoulders of IM.

The bigger picture (if your in the know) is texting…o im sry…I ment txtin

Texting among children (and adults) is perhaps now the primary way of talking to each other. Parents will limit their children to computer/internet use. But with $10 (a month) text they go hard.

But I am digressing.

Long story short. I don’t mind chatting online. The thing I don’t like is things getting lost in translation (this includes emotions!).

]]> By: David Chambers http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/2009/05/04/u-on-chat-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-61376 David Chambers Mon, 04 May 2009 12:44:41 +0000 http://db.rambleschmack.net/blog/?p=138#comment-61376 Interesting point of view, Dave, and I share it to some degree. I would like to bring up some points for consideration, however: 1. Sometimes the disconnect about which you speak is actually desirable. Some communication – such as your sharing of links at work – is more about passing information from one person's brain (or clipboard) to another's than it is about connecting socially. 2. Written communication gives one time to absorb the information that is being received and produce a considered response. I know that written communication is not everyone's cup of tea, but personally I find it superior to verbal communication for succinctly expressing my ideas. 3. With instant messaging it is possible to "chat" to several people concurrently. There exists a trade-off, however, between the quantity and quality of interactions. 4. I am amazed by the speed with which language evolves in the online community. You mention lol being used in situations where no one is actually laughing. As far as I'm concerned, lol has gone beyond its literal meaning to encapsulate the notion: "that's funny". I am not against this at all. In fact, I've recently taken to using the term "lolbad" (as in, "Windows is lolbad") in both written and verbal communication because it so neatly encapsulates the notion: "laughably bad". Interesting point of view, Dave, and I share it to some degree. I would like to bring up some points for consideration, however:

1. Sometimes the disconnect about which you speak is actually desirable. Some communication – such as your sharing of links at work – is more about passing information from one person’s brain (or clipboard) to another’s than it is about connecting socially.

2. Written communication gives one time to absorb the information that is being received and produce a considered response. I know that written communication is not everyone’s cup of tea, but personally I find it superior to verbal communication for succinctly expressing my ideas.

3. With instant messaging it is possible to “chat” to several people concurrently. There exists a trade-off, however, between the quantity and quality of interactions.

4. I am amazed by the speed with which language evolves in the online community. You mention lol being used in situations where no one is actually laughing. As far as I’m concerned, lol has gone beyond its literal meaning to encapsulate the notion: “that’s funny”. I am not against this at all. In fact, I’ve recently taken to using the term “lolbad” (as in, “Windows is lolbad”) in both written and verbal communication because it so neatly encapsulates the notion: “laughably bad”.

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